CHARLES BUKOWSKI
August 15, 2008 12:58 am literature and books
A friend of mine recently introduced me to the work of a well-known poet and novelist, Charles Bukowski. Far from what I’d expect from a poet, I found his work accessible and full of humour.
Whenever I read Bukowski’s poems I am dragged down by his morose tone. But towards the end he injects a humour that makes me smile. The honesty in his writing is both painful and refreshing to read.
In particular I have grown fond of ‘The Tragedy of the Leaves.’ Take a read below and let me know what you think. I think the plants are meant to represent life – growing and achieving. He’s comparing himself to the dead plants.
Whilst I’m not saying this guy is a role-model, I do think he carved out some fascinating work from his unique perspective on life and many people can relate to this. I can almost find similarities in Bukowski’s writing to the way song lyrics are written. The images and emotions are accessible and everyday, but the meanings are very profound. Even if they are are often on the depressing side… Check it out.
PS, doesn’t the drawing above look like an early Mr. Men??
Mxx
the tragedy of the leaves
I awakened to dryness and the ferns were dead,
the potted plants yellow as corn;
my woman was gone
and the empty bottles like bled corpses
surrounded me with their uselessness;
the sun was still good, though,
and my landlady’s note cracked in fine and
undemanding yellowness; what was needed now
was a good comedian, andcient style, a jester
with jokes upon absurd pain; pain is absurd
because it exists, nothing more;
I shaved carefully with an old razor
the man who had once been young and
said to have genius; but
that’s the tragedy of the leaves,
the dead ferns, the dead plants;
and I walked into a dark hall
where the landlady stood
execrating and final,
sending me to hell,
waving her fat, sweaty arms
and screaming
screaming for rent
because the world has failed us
both.
Here is another of his poems.






sariflor :
Date: August 15, 2008 @ 1:03 am
I’ll read now slowly to take it in, but I wanted to say that dead plants are sadly, very familiar to me: I seem to always kill everything green that I own.
Anyway, off to read it, will post my thoughts.
xx
Ssara
7anna :
Date: August 15, 2008 @ 1:06 am
HI MIKA!
hello guys…….
that was intersting to read i never heard of him but now I DO.
I LIKE THIS KIND OF ART TO its breakdown the life to its simple facts………………..
thanks for sharing that,,,
and I LOVED THE HAND WRITING,,,
peace,salam….
pauli! :
Date: August 15, 2008 @ 1:06 am
this look interesting! i really like this new website, cause it`s dinamic and funny! (sorry for my bad english)

i lov u! i hope see you soon in chile southamerica!
Christine :
Date: August 15, 2008 @ 1:07 am
Nothing lightens a morose poem quite like some fat sweaty arms.
Christine ©
Zoots :
Date: August 15, 2008 @ 1:07 am
I don’t know… I don’t see the humour in the end… I just find it sad!
Reminds me of Robert Frost’s Nothing Gold Can Stay
Nature’s first green is gold,
Her hardest hue to hold.
Her early leaf’s a flower;
But only so an hour.
Then leaf subsides to leaf.
So Eden sank to grief,
So dawn goes down to day.
Nothing gold can stay.
- Going to go read it again -
naectegale :
Date: August 15, 2008 @ 1:07 am
From Wonderpets to sad poetry - what a man of contrasts you are! Thanks!
Amandine :
Date: August 15, 2008 @ 1:08 am
ouii j’en ai entendu parlé de lui !
C’étais vraiment un homme bien et il fais rire!
C’est triste qu’il soit partit…
Merci Mika
Bisouxxx
Zoots :
Date: August 15, 2008 @ 1:08 am
…and yes, Mr. Men. HA!!
Amandine :
Date: August 15, 2008 @ 1:09 am
J’adore les poèmes… c’est magnifique..
Ludivine :
Date: August 15, 2008 @ 1:09 am
Et bien ce blog a bien évolué depuis ces 3 dernières semaines, j’étais en vacances sans connection correcte et que de choses à voir et découvrir!!!
Merci de me permettre de découvrir de manière plus approfondie Bukowski! J’avoue que je garde en mémoire sa catastrophique prestation dans l’émission littéraire de Pivot qui passait en France où il était ivre mort et m’avait un peu “refroidie” à l’époque mais tu viens de me donner envie de m’y intéresser tout de même…On en reparle plus tard alors…
Bises
Ludivine (chopotte)
sariflor :
Date: August 15, 2008 @ 1:11 am
Ok, sorry but I also need to comment on this…a bit like a Mr.Men,(which I LOVE), yes, but also a bit like Mr. Potatoe Head.
And now I REALLY am off to read the blooming thing, lol!!!
xx
Sara
Ana1202 :
Date: August 15, 2008 @ 1:12 am
I only like poetry if it’s with music. I don’t why. But I like this a bit anyway. And I liked even more the one of the video.=P
Zoots :
Date: August 15, 2008 @ 1:14 am
Ok, so you might not see the similarity to the poem I posted above. Here’s where it reminded me of it:
“I shaved carefully with an old razor
the man who had once been young and
said to have genius; but
that’s the tragedy of the leaves,
the dead ferns, the dead plants;”
The commonality is the mourning of things that were once in their prime and in their glory… and then their inevitable fall from grace.
Depressing!
But thought provoking… thanks for posting! He’s an interesting poet.
Zoots
Ankmet20 :
Date: August 15, 2008 @ 1:14 am
Interesting and very deep, I got a different meaning than a comparison to his life but thats a curious and possible perspective too, thats whats so lovely about poetry, just one person can get 2-3 meanings!
-Kristine
dcdeb :
Date: August 15, 2008 @ 1:14 am
OK, so now this is something I can relate to — I’m not an artist, but when you start talking about writers I’m on familiar ground
I agree that his work is fascinating — very insightful
and full of intriguing imagery.
For an interesting take on Bukowski — Mickey Rourke played a Bukowski-like character in a movie written by Bukowski and with Faye Dunaway as well…
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0092618/
Thanks as always for the blog.
xxx
gray skelly :
Date: August 15, 2008 @ 1:14 am
The woman’s gone so let’s compare myself to dead leaves and blame it on the landlady…ok…he made its point…try some Fernando Pessoa’s English poems (Worldwide portuguese poet) to start with and u’ll see what dark is
Besos
neeve272 :
Date: August 15, 2008 @ 1:15 am
This is different! One line struck me: “pain is absurd because it exists”…. It’s funny, cos I totally get that, BUT at the same time, pain is necessary because it lets us know when something is wrong, when we need to change something or when we need to work harder until we achieve something. Right? Hmmmm…food for thought.
Also, the poem in the vid reminds me of a song I heard for the first time today: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vVpClR5YCDU (it’s not the best quality vid, but the song lyrics are there too) The ideas seem quite similar. Check it out
take care
xxx
Chickadee :
Date: August 15, 2008 @ 1:17 am
Not so keen on the Tragedy of Leaves. But I appreciate the emotion and sentiment of the second poem. Maybe because I’m a simple gal, and metaphor is often lost on me, but a simple cry of pain is a simple cry of pain. Recognisable, and easy to identify with. Thanks for sharing it.
Chickadee
susa ribes :
Date: August 15, 2008 @ 1:17 am
Hola!antes que nada,pedir disculpas por cambiar mi comentario a mi segundo idioma que es el español( el primero es el Catalán)pero supongo que si escribiera en catalán habría gente que no me entendería.
Nunca he leido nada de este escritor o poeta,pero parece ser muy interesante,prometo informarme un poco más sobre él,será mañana,ahora son las 2 de la madrugada y es tarde mañana hay que trabajar.
Muchas gracias MIKA,por aportarnos información sobre artistas,escritores,poetas,pintores,musica,etc,está muy interesante conocer mas sobre el mundo de la cultura en general.
VIVA LA CULTURA!!!!
Bona nit.
Susa-Gandia-Valencia-Spain
Fallon M :
Date: August 15, 2008 @ 1:20 am
It makes me kinda sad..
Interesting how he says he can’t help them..
but then again only you can really help yourself.
people should do what they want for a living instead of dreading everyday..
hmm idk! love you!!!!!!
Fallon
Nono (Fmbm) :
Date: August 15, 2008 @ 1:20 am
Nice blog. I’ve never been any good at understanding poems, but they’re still nice to read. I don’t think I’m deep enough to understand — sad.
You’re right, the endings are funny haha.
Thanks;-)
Sleep well.
gisele nunes brasil (sweet) :
Date: August 15, 2008 @ 1:21 am
honestly I don’t like so much his poems, but I read some books of him. have you read factotum????
I don’t know why I was surprised when I saw your post. mika likes buk??? then I remembered the bear picnic and I was like: ahh of course he likes buk!
lol
=)
abraços, from Brazil
gray skelly :
Date: August 15, 2008 @ 1:23 am
Like scond one love is a dog from hell better, more realistic though…
ALENTEJO SEEN FROM THE TRAIN
Nothing with nothing around it
And a few trees in between
None of wich very clearly green,
Where no river or flower pays a visit.
If there be a hell, I’ve found it,
For if ain’t here, where the Devil it is?
(1907)
I AM THE ESCAPED ONE
I am the escaped one,
After I was born
They locked me up inside me
But I left.
My soul seeks me,
Through hills and valley,
I hope my soul
Never finds me.
MEANTIME
Far away, far away,
Far away from here…
There is no worry after joy
Or away from fear
Far away from here.
Her lips were not very red,
Not her hair quite gold.
Her hands played with rings.
She did not let me hold
Her hands playing with gold.
She is something past,
Far away from pain.
Joy can touch her not, nor hope
Enter her domain,
Neither love in vain.
Perhaps at some day beyond
Shadows and light
She will think of me and make
All me a delight
All away from sight.
FERNANDO PESSOA
Melanie (BonjourMika1990) :
Date: August 15, 2008 @ 1:23 am
Mika!
Thank you for showcasing this author! I’ve been studying him all summer for my writing class. And he’s also my best friend’s favorite author. I can’t read too much of his stuff too often, but I agree with you there is a way in which he looks at the world that is so honest and grungy but with a little bit of a smirk.
It is like song writing,especially when one takes the everyday monotony into account.
Bukowski is also well known for a theory he used to talk about : something like, the mathematics of beauty. He says that people who were not born beautiful can make themselves beautiful by makeup (which is obvious lol) But the details incoorperate exact shading and precision…the distance between the nose to how far apart ones eyes are.
Very interesting stuff.
And that poem, The tragedy of leaves indeed represents life. I think the “tragedy” part alludes more so to past relationships, affairs that have essentially shriveled up and died. This poem is about lonliness, isolation and it evokes really just a very barren feeling.
But there is beauty towards the end, even when the landlady yells for the rent… both are united in a common struggle.
That’s my take on it, forgive the length of this lol… I’m not studying this for nothing!
Take care,
I’ll leave you with one of my favorite quotes of his:
“Some people never go crazy, What truly horrible lives they must live”
I LOVE THAT! ITs a fact that all good writers atleast go a little bit insane…otherwise, they’re not doing their jobs!
Love ya!
-Mel
dilek :
Date: August 15, 2008 @ 1:27 am
fat sweaty arms..
eeeew!
i’m not a native english speaker so this poem doesn’t make any sense to me…
i mean i understand it though i can’t see the meaning behind it:(
Natalie (England) :
Date: August 15, 2008 @ 1:31 am
those are really good poems, I really like the poem in the video
and I like his quote and drawing at the top of the page too!
thanks Mika
xxNatalie
Zoots :
Date: August 15, 2008 @ 1:32 am
Wow… just watched the video… I LOVE that one.
Christine :
Date: August 15, 2008 @ 1:32 am
Okay seriously now Mika…
I’m wondering if that Bukowski quote reflects your sentiments about your songwriting.
Christine ©
sariflor :
Date: August 15, 2008 @ 1:33 am
At the risk of spamming you tonight, here is another comment now, this time with my verdict on the poems.
I think that this is the sort of stuff that you need to read when you’re in quite a good mood, as it tends to bring me down when I’m already a bit sad or so…It’s quite poignant, but a bit harsh I find.
I personally prefer slightly happier reads, or something that even though is sad, can have a message of hope in it, even if very slight.
This poem that you posted (the first one) deeply disturbs me.
I see in it the majorly depressed person, people who are so unhappy, lives that seem wasted…I don’t know, it seems a bit hard to read.
The second one has a bit more irony in it, a bit more humour, but still, I find them both quite “depressed”. I know that this is what they are, and the idea, but I hope that you know what I mean by this. :o)
I’ll look more stuff up on him to see if I can find others that are slightly lighter hearted.
Btw- I love his quote “These words I write keep me from total madness”
I wish everyone had a proven method like that. I guess you do with the songwriting, but others have to search out for our own ways….
Have a great Birthday weekend!!
xxx
Sara
Sparkly1 :
Date: August 15, 2008 @ 1:34 am
Now your talking Mika, I love poetry and I really liked the poem you showed us, at first read I didn’t understand it all, but I love poetry that gets into my heart, sometimes it can just be one sentence, (it’s like lyrics really isn’t it), for instance ” Intolerably blue” and
“I feel as if Im bleeding From a thousand miles away” touch me very deeply indeed and are my favourite of your lyrics so far.
I opened my own little thread on MFC (here it is if your interested)
http://www.mikafanclub.com/forums/showthread.php?t=5969&highlight=sparkly+poetry
where I have posted some of my own poems but they and I am not really very good, I have not studied poetry forms and such I just wrote whats in my heart I guess, I find it really heard to write jolly poems as I am more inspired when I am hurting about something lol weird that aint it.
Marissa Garcia :
Date: August 15, 2008 @ 1:35 am
Very deep and sad at the same time. I think the plants represent things he’s achieved in life and now they are fading, dying. It happens sometimes, i’ve felt that way. Thanks for sharing Mika.
Greetings from Guadalajara, Mexico
RAK :
Date: August 15, 2008 @ 1:39 am
I’ve heard him being talked about on many shows, like The South Bank Show and R4s Front Row, but never really took a lot of notice.
Interesting poems, I see what you mean about the wry injection of humour in there.
And trust you to think of the Mr Men!:-)lol!
Sparkly1 :
Date: August 15, 2008 @ 1:42 am
I forgot to mention and I sooo wanted to mention my other favourite line in your lyrics
“Can’t you see my life as something more, and paint me in a colour that you swear you’ve never seen before”
I swear that is one beautiful line I adore it, it just reaches right inside of me, it gets me every time.
Jack Violet :
Date: August 15, 2008 @ 1:43 am
“Far from what I’d expect from a poet, I found his work accessible and full of humour.”
Come on, Mika! You’re not someone I expected to stereotype or practice reverse snobbery! Especially since you’re someone who appreciates classical music along with pop music–and you know how many people dismiss classical music as “stodgy” or “boring” or “pompous.”
Poetry is like any other genre–it contains a wide range or tone and expression. The poetry we consider “inaccessible” is usually just from a time period when a different type of expression was the norm. Sure there are “difficult” and obtuse poets, but same thing with musicians.
Have you read, for instance, the poetry of Anne Sexton? She’s a feminist poet so I don’t know how much her work would resonate with you, but her fairy-tale poems for instance are damn sharp and funny.
A sample:
http://plagiarist.com/poetry/?wid=597
Most of my favorite poets are Russian, so be glad I can’t give you endless links.
Pianogirlsammy :
Date: August 15, 2008 @ 1:45 am
wow…. I love a good poem in which you really need to stop and think. Thanks for sharing! And yes, I agree with you theory about his life.
“The empty pots like bled corpses” comparing to how, I THINK, his past years were gone away, the people he was are dead. The pots were all that was left of who he was (the pots being memories, all that remains) and the person he was, and longs to again be is gone and dead (bled corpses)
Also, “the man who had once been young and
said to have genius; ” I feel refers to this point exactly. Who he was was full of genius and good (like the plants, beautiful, young and in bloom.) Still, those “ferns” and “plants” are now dead, leaving only the empty pots (as I said, memories) remaining. I feel this is about where he is in his life, an old man, looking at his past and the memories he has (around the room and at the empty pots) and missing what once was.
I know that what I interpret is dark, but this is what I see in this poem. Its sad I know, but everyone has different opininons about poems, as with everything in life. Some might just see this poem as one about a man with dead plants in his house, but I see more. So forgive me if this has lowered your mood.
Im really a very, VERY happy person!!!!!!!! : D
Thanks for posting mika, I just love all of your posts!
P.s. YOUR BIRTHDAY IS COMING SOON! Arent you excited?!?
Very deep, which is just the way I like a poem!
p.p.s. Yes, i do think that the drawing looks like an early mr. men character. I just love them and the little miss’es. I rememeber them from little books when I was a child!
peace,love,music! and love always….
-sAmMy rAe ;D
(In the states!)
xX Gabi Xx :
Date: August 15, 2008 @ 1:48 am
HOOOO THE LIFE IS A POEM
HE IS LIKE WE SAY IN ARGENTINA …
“ES UN LOCO LINDO”
XX GABI XX
Finkster :
Date: August 15, 2008 @ 1:48 am
Haha that was very interesting.
I’d have to see more of his work.
God Bless,
Jess
Mika4life13 :
Date: August 15, 2008 @ 1:51 am
well that was depressing LOL! i like the end the best. But I prefer Dr.Seuss, he is totally more…in tune with our world. I agree with what you said before, he is amazing.
Mika4life13 :
Date: August 15, 2008 @ 1:52 am
and sariflor, i kill all my plants too.
But i’m pretty sure it’s my neighbour who peed on them and then stomped through them and my flowers who is to blame.
Jazmin Kelly :
Date: August 15, 2008 @ 1:54 am
Hey Mika!!
Hope you´re ok!
I didn´t know him, but now i do.. i likeD the poem, i´ll read more about him, he´s very NICE!
Thank you!!
Best Wishes
Jazmin
xX Gabi Xx :
Date: August 15, 2008 @ 2:00 am
IN ARGENTINA WE LOST A GREAT FUNNY WRITER … “FONTANARROSA”, HE MAKE FANTASTIC HISTORIES WITH DRAWSS AND HUMOR
HERE IS THE WEBSITE
http://www.negrofontanarrosa.com
I THINK THAN YOU WILL LOVE THE DRAWS AND I HOPE DO YOU UNDERSTAND COUSE IS IN SPANISH
BESOTEEEEEEE
XX GABI XX
andrea_from_chile! :
Date: August 15, 2008 @ 2:02 am
god this was too deep mika! i cant read this right now…. im exhausted!! (maybe tomorrow)
see you!
Alice Stewart :
Date: August 15, 2008 @ 2:04 am
HI Mr. M:
I’ll have to think on this.
T H A N X.
Hope life is treating you well.
ann :
Date: August 15, 2008 @ 2:06 am
you don’t had dislexia?? mmmm…
Nat :
Date: August 15, 2008 @ 2:07 am
You have nice friends, they recommend you good movies and poets, mine only recommend therapists!
Besos desde Argentina.
mara :
Date: August 15, 2008 @ 2:10 am
muy lindo poema,medio triste pero lindo,no sabia que te gustaban los poemas.
mara♥♥♥
xX Gabi Xx :
Date: August 15, 2008 @ 2:15 am
ANDDDDD I SEE THE LIFE LIKE THE PLANTS…
COUSE THE LIFE IS SHORT LIKE THE LIFE PLANTS…
AND SOME TIMES THEY (LIFE-PLANTS) HAVE SOME COLOR…
SOME TIMES THEY ARE DAWN…
AND SOME TIMES COME THE SUN…
AND THEY ARE UP…
AND SOME TIMES COME SOMEBODY TO PULL UP OUR HEARTS LIKE SOMEBODY TO PULL UP A FLOWER…
XX GABI XX
Kate :
Date: August 15, 2008 @ 2:20 am
Haha, I love the second one. I think without his voice, I would’ve read it sound more melodramatic (mistakingly), but I really like it!
SILVIA DE ARGENTINA & Carly!! :
Date: August 15, 2008 @ 2:21 am
OH… WE ARE SO HAPPY & UNHAPPY AT THE SAME TIME;BY READ YOUR OPINIONS BUT NOT UNDERSTAND ALL THE TEXT YOU HAVE WRITTEN.
EVEN THE POEM!
WHAT A PITY ABOUT THE LIMITS OF THE LANGUAGE (THEY SHOULDN´T EXIST).
WHATEVER, WE CAN GUESS THE DEEP MEANING OF THE WORDS.
IN A DAY WE´LL WORK TO TRADUCE EVERYTHING.HA!
WE LIKE TO SEE THAT WE HAVE A LIKE IN COMMON.
SOMETIMES IN THE SADNESS FLOURISH THE BEST WORDS!
SOME OF THAT I CAN CAPT IN YOUR SONG “OVER MY SHOULDER”
HOWEVER ANOTHER AMAZING SIDE OF YOUR PERSONALITY…
MUCHOS BESOS Y CARIÑOS DESDE LA PATAGONIA ARGENTINA!
Me :
Date: August 15, 2008 @ 2:22 am
Love literature.
It’s what I’ve studied.
Can’t believe you’ve posted this.
Made an essay on this topic.
I’m slightly drunk, cannot read the poem now…
Seems like everyone’s sleeping, sshhhh…
Kayla :
Date: August 15, 2008 @ 2:22 am
i have heard of this poet…but never read his work.
i will look into it, though!
hope everything is going peachy
and that everyone is happy
I say hi to Yasmine, LOL!
love you Mika, xoxo
Kay.
Jennie :
Date: August 15, 2008 @ 2:32 am
Well at 2:30 in the morning I can’t really take in something like that..it’ll have to wait until morning.
We studied his collection South of No North by him in our English Lit class a couple of years ago at college.. it was so different to all the other stuff we were doing but in a good way - much, much more interesting anyway!
And yes that definitely looks like a Mr Man….can’t put my finger on which one though…
x
Rima :
Date: August 15, 2008 @ 2:34 am
He’s not exactly little miss sunshine is he? I’ve recently been drawn to Francis Picabia’s, I am a Beautiful Monster, for the same reasons. He was a Dadaist in love with Nietzsche, a bit more existential and more inaccessible, not a modernist like Bukowski. For instance, Picabia wrote, “Music reflects the external reality of the guide hungry for horror.” He illustrated his work as well.
I really liked the second one you posted because it perfectly expresses the creative paradox—the almost pathological nature of it. The first one though is so fatalistic. I tend to view that poem more about alcohol fueling his creativity because of the dryness, yellowing, dullness (the flowers are dead because of neglect, desertion–they’re potted houseplants–he’s not watering them), not necessarily the cyclicality of life. Leaves are tied to paper (the landlady’s note yellowed…the bills–that would be paid by his writing) and paper is tied to his writing too perhaps? Creative wells are drying up? Flowers are usually associated with life (and women too!). Maybe I’m wrong though. It’s fascinating how poets always return to plants. I’m currently writing on botany and poetry: mind-boggling how much of it there is. My question is: what do you think about the role of gender in that poem, Mika?…xr
Suzy :
Date: August 15, 2008 @ 2:40 am
It sort of captures the moment when he was having a particularly bad day - where you just seem to find the negative in everything.
Have those a couple times a year.
Mafaaaa :
Date: August 15, 2008 @ 2:49 am
Well . . . Dead plants . It makes me think about my mum, she is always worry about her plants but they always dye and I can’t get why . . . but I’m always mocking my mum .
I loved the poem, I love poetry . . . I love writing, it’s one of things I can do better . But whatever it’s not about me . I LOVE when he says “pain is absurd because it exists, nothing more;” sometimes I think just like that . It’s just pain… nothing more . I don’t know .
And in the second poem, I found amazing the way I think he tries to say “you think you understand me, but you don’t really do” . I think our life it’s always a bit like this, cause there are always people who think they know us, or understand us and in fact, they don’t do . Because we are just so many things than they think . . . I think there are just a very few people in the world who really understand and know us . . . I have about 5 people I can trust my heart, but just one of them really knows me and understands me when I speak .
Mafaaaa :
Date: August 15, 2008 @ 2:50 am
Oh . . . And:
Kisses,
Mafaaaa
***
laurence :
Date: August 15, 2008 @ 2:50 am
Alala je savais que je le connaissais!! En fait la plupart des Français le connaissent parce qu’il a été invité à la fin des 70’s à l’émission littéraire ‘Apostrophes’, où il a fait un scandale et a du être évacué en direct!! Depuis chaque année pour les fêtes, on nous le ressort à chaque fois ,comme l’un des grands moments de la télé française lool!!
Bref,son nom m’était familier mais je ne m’étais jamais intéressée à son oeuvre! C’est un peu dur de lire des poèmes en anglais! Sa vie est un vrai roman à elle seule!Je soupçonne Wikipédia d’en avoir un peu rajouté…
Oh un petit lien sympa pour avoir un aperçu de son oeuvre littéraire mais pas seulement(il y a des caricatures etc), de sa vie etc… http://membres.lycos.fr/jkerouac/Bukowski.htm
Je dois avouer que le personnage me touche beaucoup bizarrement!!
Je ne suis pas trés à l’aise avec l’anglais mais je trouve le rapprochemnt entre sa vie et les plantes subtil mais assez évident (Il n’hésite pas à méler ses propres sensations et expériences à sa descriptions des plantes mortes)!
Je crois que ce que je préfère dans ce poème c’est le titre “The tragedy of the leaves” L’association de deux mots qui renvoie à deux mondes opposés : on parle de tragédies humaines alors que les feuilles renvoie au mondes des objets sans vie, sans émotion! Je ne sais pas si en anglais ma réflexion tient la route mais l’association est d’autant plus intéréssante que les feuilles c’est aussi là où l’écrivain couche ses mots!! C’est fou, je trouve ça incroyable comment en quelque mots certaines personnes arrivent à dire tant de choses…Son mal-être transpire tellement dans ce poême! La sensibilité est vraiment une qualité qui peut être lourde de douleur et de souffrance…Je me l’imagine bien habité par d’innombrables paradoxes tout en gardant une certaine cohérence dans son comportement!! Cela le rend tellement attachant…Sa souffrance dans ce poême me bouleverse un peu je dois l’avouer : ça doit être le fait qu’il est 3h40 du matin quelle idée d’écrire à cette heure-là mais je me suis laissée complément happée par sa vie…
Moi aussi j’y vois un certain humour: par exemple lorsqu’il parle des bouteilles vides ça m’étonnerait que ce soit qu’une référence aux bouteilles d’eau!!!lol Du coup le fait qu’il souligne leur inutilité m’a fait sourire!
Quelques-unes de ses citations:
J’adore celle-ci, bien qu’elle soit connue, d’autres avant lui ont dû la dire:
“Certains ne deviennent jamais fous… Leurs vies doivent être bien ennuyeuses.”
“Toi, tu es laid, et tu ne connais pas ta chance : au moins, si on t’aime, c’est pour une autre raison.»
«La poésie en dit long et c’est vite fait. La prose ne va pas très loin et prend du temps.»
“Je retourne aux putes et au scotch, pendant qu’il est encore temps. Si j’y risque ma peau, il me paraît moins grave de causer sa propre mort que celle des autres.”
Cintia_jenny :
Date: August 15, 2008 @ 2:53 am
I like it!! i’m gonna search more about him!!
I think it might be very good read more!
Gracias!!!
Besos y buen día!
laurence :
Date: August 15, 2008 @ 2:54 am
Oh la vache en éditant mon post je viens de me rendre compte de sa longueur…je me fais vraiment peur parfois! Désolée pour ceux qui tenteront de me lire…s’il y en a!
Devi :
Date: August 15, 2008 @ 2:56 am
wow! his poems are different then what i have heard, but they are very unique!
and reply to ur PS: yup it does
and mika: how do u get rid of klutziness? not that u ever had any
im just breaking/spraining/fracturing somethiing every week. lol
i blame u xD
xxx devin
Devi :
Date: August 15, 2008 @ 2:58 am
PS: hope recording is going well for you!
Victoria Rose ( lalalifegoeson ) :
Date: August 15, 2008 @ 3:02 am
wow that was really deep
just me :
Date: August 15, 2008 @ 3:04 am
I think it’s a lovely poem. a little sad, but wonderfull.
VOY A DORMIR PENSANDO EN LO QUE ACABO DE LEER…ES MARAVILLOSO…
In my house we’ve got a lots of plants and that make it the most beautiful place to be for me…
bajo uno de los arboles puedo pasar horas leyendo, sin tener noción del tiempo…
it´s really amazing in spring!!!!!!just lovely!!!!!
those plants are my little treasury, and I always try to take care of them…I think they´re a part of me.
LOVE
BESOS DESDE ARGENTINA!!!!!!(STILL WAITING FOR YOU)
HASTA LUEGO!!!!
OL
The Meyer Twins :
Date: August 15, 2008 @ 3:07 am
Mika, those two poems you posted are very fascinating. We totally agree with you that many people can relate to these.
Thanks for sharing Mika.
Love Love you bunches and a very happy birthday in advance!!
The Meyer Twins
Green eggs and ham :
Date: August 15, 2008 @ 3:08 am
Not sure about this poet but I love Dr Seuss!
guylainem123 :
Date: August 15, 2008 @ 3:11 am
very nice. i think the reason why these poems make me smile is that they are not “too poetic” & are talking about everyday events/objects …people have landladies & we all know what a pain the phone can be ;o) in a way, they are little stories.
my favorite poet is felix leclerc. he was a poet/songwriter. he was very popular here in quebec.
xx
Doris :
Date: August 15, 2008 @ 3:13 am
Good morning,MIKA.
Romi :
Date: August 15, 2008 @ 3:17 am
These are the times I wish I were born knowing perfect english…for us foreign people sometimes it takes a long time of reading to understand!! haha
But I read the tragedy of the leaves…you’re right, it’s really deep. Sadly I’m not so clever to write a philosophical review about it, but for me it means that somehow existence is futile, and it’s futile because it ends without shame and glory. It’s exactly the opposite of how I’m experiencing life right now,but still something that makes me think…
Thanks for sharing, Mika!
hasta luego, besos
Romi
Samantha :
Date: August 15, 2008 @ 3:26 am
Thanks Mika I love reading! nice suggestion!! Take care!!
xXSamanthaXx
Miriam :
Date: August 15, 2008 @ 3:26 am
Live is light and shadow!
Sometimes in my sunny days I can see some clouds… But I still walking with my “blue wellies”!!
Besos
Mimi
iadoremika :
Date: August 15, 2008 @ 3:28 am
*reads poem* I like the poem. And I can totally see what you mean by him adding humour towards the end. I giggled at the end part of it.
And yes, that drawing does look like the Mr. Men! I have some of those books:)
Thanks for sharing Mika =]
Ema Low :
Date: August 15, 2008 @ 3:32 am
Oh, I love poetry!
Write some everyday.
That and lyrics.
And this is certainly Amazing!
-Ema <3
Paleo Blue :
Date: August 15, 2008 @ 3:32 am
I find more humour in the second one than in the first. The first one paints a very clear, and depressing picture. Dead leaves don’t always seem a tragedy to me, but in this vision they are very depressing.
I do like the saying, “These words I write keep me from total madness” It is so true that in writing and/or in creating art one is able to “process life”, fend off madness, and perhaps even tickle a fancy here or there. I remember seeing another profound statement regarding the role of art in everyday life at the National Portrait Gallery in DC. But I don’t remember what it said. haha
Ema Low :
Date: August 15, 2008 @ 3:37 am
I have just realised something. Right after I wrote that other comment. I’m wearing a Little Miss shirt right now D:! FANTASTIC! I knew I should’ve worn this shirt today!! Ha! Ha! I’m officially crazy.
-Ema <3
P.S. I’m so happy I’m second and third to comment
Me :
Date: August 15, 2008 @ 3:39 am
And apparently they keep on sleeping.
I thought there would be comments all night long…
I’m bored.
Buenas noches!
marisol :
Date: August 15, 2008 @ 3:40 am
I don´t know who´s that man
becauce I don´t underestan very much English.
but i want tolk you…you are so beautifull…you are sure tired of heard
kiss!!
sol
Jackie :
Date: August 15, 2008 @ 3:40 am
I Like it, It’s truthful. None of that everything’s wonderful crap. Empty bottles are useless when you wake up alone and old, and you do feel that life has failed you when you can’t make rent and you’ve lost your hope. I really like it.
The Meyer Twins :
Date: August 15, 2008 @ 3:48 am
Oh Mika forgot to answer your question about Mr. Men. Yes it does. We had a bunch of those books when we were younger.
XOXO
ana karen :
Date: August 15, 2008 @ 3:52 am
the first poem is sad
full of homesickness :S
sunshine931 :
Date: August 15, 2008 @ 3:53 am
First of all, I totally get what you’re saying when you say :
“Whenever I read Bukowski’s poems I am dragged down by his morose tone. But towards the end he injects a humour that makes me smile. The honesty in his writing is both painful and refreshing to read.”
It made me feel the exact same way.
I’ll have to read again to really take it all in… and check out more of his work.
Véronique
Blue Sky :
Date: August 15, 2008 @ 3:59 am
Nothing can save you except writing.
Go to the racetrack Mika.
Miriam :
Date: August 15, 2008 @ 4:04 am
BREAKING NEWS: I CAN´T SLEEP!!
——————————–
MY RECOMMENDATION:
“Letters to a young poet” by
RAINER MARIA RILKE.
——————————–
I love this book!
It’s a “manual” about
what it is (and what is required)
to be an artist and a person.
Short and profound!
That’s all!!
Buenas noches…
Mimi
mika_baby :
Date: August 15, 2008 @ 4:21 am
hey Mee,
This is my first to learn a poem so maybe it sounds stupid but don’t laugh at me, ok!
I feels life struggle, baffle but not catch at a straw yet….
I’ll try to read it more times and see what it brings to me cus I’m a eager student of you!
vxxx
LadyGodiva :
Date: August 15, 2008 @ 4:34 am
I like hearing poems that a written by others rather than reading them. Like a song, I think that hearing it by the author gives it more distinct meaning. This may be why I like the video one more=]
These words I write keep me from total madness….that would make a nice song=D
Haha, Mr. Men- yes I see it! Always entertaining, love those- used to have lots of books about them. Actually, erm, I still do!
Thanks!
-L
chris edwards :
Date: August 15, 2008 @ 4:35 am
Mika…next time you’re in Boston for a show, Sheila, Emi, Lara & I will take you to Bukowski’s. Named after your new fave poet.
Spin the beer wheel and see what you end up with.
At lunch burgers are only a dollar.
Come back soon
Chris
::: • VeroMica • :::: :
Date: August 15, 2008 @ 4:40 am
OMG…
You won’t believe me if I tell you I’ve been thinking about this poet since last tuesday, will you??
I’m quite shocked…
Besos desde Argentina!
::: Vero :::
Katydid :
Date: August 15, 2008 @ 4:44 am
Hey Mika,
Thanks for sharing these, I was unfamiliar with his work.
For the second one, it resonated with me how people see artists and expect them to have it all figured out. That surely, they must not suffer and their life is golden or they have overcame their obstacles through success. When in reality, the best artists are the ones that do know suffering because their words come from their own truth. So, no life is perfect and money doesn’t solve problems, it actually just brings more. But cash can make the day easier for sure. So, I always relate more to singers who write their owns songs because they are singing from their own hearts. That was a big part of what tuned me into your music, especially with my interpretation and erase. However, I was so disappointed to know that the line If half of what you said is true, And half of what I didn’t do could be different, Would it make it better? wasn’t yours. I know when I heard that, I was like wow he gets it. That is one of the best song lyrics.
I especially like the last line of the first poem, how the world had failed them both. That the person causing you to struggle is struggling herself, striving to live.
Mr. Men, hmmmm would that be Mr. Happy in America. by Hargreaves?
Happy Birthday, all the best,
Katie
Jennifer B. :
Date: August 15, 2008 @ 4:44 am
I feel for the man writing the poem. If he had lost someone close to him, he was mourning. Maybe just barely trying to get back to living again. I felt this way after losing my sister when she was 20yrs old. (6 years ago)
He expresses well, how it feels and uses the plants to show his emotional state.
(Just my opinion, of course!)
J
lilly :
Date: August 15, 2008 @ 4:45 am
Poetry is amazing. You have to admire someone who is able to manipulate the human language so beautifully.
Me :
Date: August 15, 2008 @ 4:52 am
No sleep at all…
Read this:
–A Simple Child,
That lightly draws its breath,
And feels its life in every limb,
What should it know of death?
I met a little cottage Girl:
She was eight years old, she said;
Her hair was thick with many a curl
That clustered round her head.
She had a rustic, woodland air,
And she was wildly clad:
Her eyes were fair, and very fair;
–Her beauty made me glad.
“Sisters and brothers, little Maid,
How many may you be?”
“How many? Seven in all,” she said
And wondering looked at me.
“And where are they? I pray you tell.”
She answered, “Seven are we;
And two of us at Conway dwell,
And two are gone to sea.
“Two of us in the church-yard lie,
My sister and my brother;
And, in the church-yard cottage, I
Dwell near them with my mother.”
“You say that two at Conway dwell,
And two are gone to sea,
Yet ye are seven!–I pray you tell,
Sweet Maid, how this may be.”
Then did the little Maid reply,
“Seven boys and girls are we;
Two of us in the church-yard lie,
Beneath the church-yard tree.”
“You run above, my little Maid,
Your limbs they are alive;
If two are in the church-yard laid,
Then ye are only five.”
“Their graves are green, they may be seen,”
The little Maid replied,
“Twelve steps or more from my mother’s door,
And they are side by side.
“My stockings there I often knit,
My kerchief there I hem;
And there upon the ground I sit,
And sing a song to them.
“And often after sun-set, Sir,
When it is light and fair,
I take my little porringer,
And eat my supper there.
“The first that died was sister Jane;
In bed she moaning lay,
Till God released her of her pain;
And then she went away.
“So in the church-yard she was laid;
And, when the grass was dry,
Together round her grave we played,
My brother John and I.
“And when the ground was white with snow,
And I could run and slide,
My brother John was forced to go,
And he lies by her side.”
“How many are you, then,” said I,
“If they two are in heaven?”
Quick was the little Maid’s reply,
“O Master! we are seven.”
“But they are dead; those two are dead!
Their spirits are in heaven!”
‘Twas throwing words away; for still
The little Maid would have her will,
And said, “Nay, we are seven!”
sunshine18 :
Date: August 15, 2008 @ 5:02 am
you are my boy!!! Bukowski is genius!!! I like his prose and poetry…I have read a lot of his books so I know what you mean when you are writing about him…Post Office…Women…Hollywood…General tales of Ordinary Madness or The last night of the earth Poems…Shakespeare never did this…It cathes in my head in its Hands…just perfect…
p.s.: one of our music band is called “Chinaski”
p.s.2: tomorrow is Bukowski´s birth day!
Clelia :
Date: August 15, 2008 @ 5:09 am
Yes, I think he’s comparing himself to the dead plants.
The poet Charles Bukowski has been undoubtedly the accomplice in the long slow suicide of his alcoholism.
Rowena :
Date: August 15, 2008 @ 5:12 am
This time I needed chocolate - too triste….
Jechu :
Date: August 15, 2008 @ 5:18 am
nice poems, i’m gonna search for more of his writings now . . .
.thanks.
saludos desde Santiago, Chile
nadia romero :
Date: August 15, 2008 @ 5:20 am
ayy Dioos santoo!
hahahaa hahaa
soi de los primeroos ocmentariiooos! hahaha mika te amoo!
http://www.youtube.com/nadkascrazys
chase :
Date: August 15, 2008 @ 5:21 am
haha,second
Jechu :
Date: August 15, 2008 @ 5:26 am
i like the idea of this blog . . . it shows more of you as a person . . . what you like, involving anything, not only the artistic subjects. . . you’re really making a difference . . . a nice and original way to connect to people in search of similar tastes, i guess . . . and to fans of course.
xo desde Santiago, Chile
kalil :
Date: August 15, 2008 @ 5:30 am
I think bukowski is voicing out to the readers the daily struggles of the desperate (like him), finding some comfort, in the truths that allow him to understand their frustration =)
btw, i was browsing about brokowski and i found these lines meaningful.
“sometimes you climb out of bed in the morning and you think,
I’m not going to make it, but you laugh inside
remembering all the times you’ve felt that way.”
-gamblers all, Charles Bukowski
love,
kalil
nadia romero :
Date: August 15, 2008 @ 5:30 am
wenno xD
eso se vee tristee
aunqe no entendi muy bien porqe nose mucho ingles
pero se vee asi como tristee como kiere decir de personas qe se sienten asi
o algo asi XD es mui bonita la poesia mika
amo tu blog
y amo qe pongaa las cosas qe te gustan
y creo qe esto es muy bello
la verdad
sunshine18 :
Date: August 15, 2008 @ 5:33 am
yeeeeeeh…I forgot this…regarding to literature and books section I would like to recommend you next literature genius - Joseph Heller…if you like Bukowski probably Heller will be interested for you too :-)…Catch 22 is unforgettable…specially Major Major :-))))
thanks for this blog!!!
if you want you can continue with Kerouac
…have a good reading…
I love beat generation!
p.s.: thanks a lot you reminded me very nice part of my life :-)…it was 16 years ago…I was studying (as a fashion designer) and I my friends and me were discovering beat generation…waw it was perfect time - we were only reading…listening to music…discussing…drawing…writing…and we were so far from reality
and now……..I´m grown up but memories are still in my brain and soul!
TAKE CARE!lol
Alejandra :
Date: August 15, 2008 @ 5:38 am
I think this is very sad.
The author talks about emotional pain
that is too heavy on him.
Sometimes the only way to live with the pain is to share the pain.
That is why he says “These words I write keep me from total madness”
Vanessa :
Date: August 15, 2008 @ 5:44 am
i think what he’s is trying to say is that he has awaken from the sadness of his wifes death and that he had to wake up back to reality…everything around him was still the same the sun was shining, he still had to shave every morning the land lady was still asking for the rent money…the world was his fern and his leaves were now falling thus the tragedy of the leaves… well thats how i Interpret it i guess and at the end of the poem where he says ” the world has failed us both” maybe he means that his wife has died and he dosn’t have any money to pay the landlady with. therefore there both losing right? he dosn’t have the woman he loves and the landlady doesn’t have the money that shes been screaming about..hmm there so mcuh more i’d like to write but i might take to much space
well great poem!! sorry for writing so much i really get into poems at times!
<3 Vanessa
Cynthia Mulat :
Date: August 15, 2008 @ 5:47 am
Hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha!!!!! Yes, that is what i think of the second poem.
I broke out into laughter because i know how that feels, i completely understand. Its a good feeling to.
I like this guys way of expressing himself. His humor is only by default, though, i think he does understand it though…who knows.
The Tragedy of Leaves is a good poem. It lacks something for me, but the humor in it is its saving grace. It’s like reading my own writing and maybe thats why i don’t really enjoy it as much.
On first impression, i said “amen!” after reading that poem. Its so true…
Anyways….
Literature fascinates me. It tantalizes my mind and creates understanding and imagery. I can never argue with that.
I don’t have any favorites…maybe Edgar Allen Poe. But i think it is his darkness that i am intrigued with more than anything.
At first glance at the drawing i thought you were going to talk about Mr Men characters.
I grew up watching the shows and reading the books. How could i not like them? I remember thinking that was complicated art. Just because it worked yet, it was so simple. lol!
Lets keep talking about literature.
ooo
C
Angels :
Date: August 15, 2008 @ 5:56 am
i haven’t learn enought english yet, but i understand a few parts of the first poem, and the second one was the easier to understand. i think that’s one of the reasons because i like more the second, but anyway i like it more because it’s like he says “hey i don’t have all the answers, i want answers too!”
if my english doesn’t fail, i think i understand it right!
and sorry sorry for my horrible english! i hope you find sense to what i wrote…
and thanks for show us the thinks that you enjoy! is really good to read or see new and interesting thinks as a poem or a cartoon!
me encantan las cosas nuevas q nos mostras! me causan mucha curiosidad!
keep posting things like that! i love it!
besos y abrazos desde argetina!
angie
kachin!
Gigi :
Date: August 15, 2008 @ 6:06 am
you should check out my friends stop motion animation, its so great, he does the music and everything!!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_mpKiKY_f9s
Isn’t that AMAZING?
Naomi :
Date: August 15, 2008 @ 6:07 am
I’ve experienced something completely new today.
I actually cracked a smile at the end of a poem… a poem. Holy crap.
Anyways, I like the video one.
patricia :
Date: August 15, 2008 @ 6:08 am
very interesting ,but i can’t understand it completely . i’m dutch and although my english isn’t so bad , it’s hard for me to undertstand english poems. i don’t know the meaning of some words
dcdeb :
Date: August 15, 2008 @ 6:19 am
As I looked at this blog again, I smiled to think that you were genuinely interested in talking about
Bukowski’s work — it would be very cool to
have that sort of conversation with you.
While he really was NOT a very “nice” person by socially accepted standards, he was an undeniable talent. As a writer myself, I most enjoyed when he waxed poetic about the writing process. I had to dig out the one poem I used to have tacked up on my bulletin board… over the years it, like some of my motivation, had been misplaced. But, inspired by this blog, I have printed out a fresh copy, and have pinned it up where I can see it daily again.
Perhaps you’ve already run across this one… but in case you haven’t, here it is.
“so you want to be a writer?”
by Charles Bukowski
if it doesn’t come bursting out of you
in spite of everything,
don’t do it.
unless it comes unasked out of your
heart and your mind and your mouth
and your gut,
don’t do it.
if you have to sit for hours
staring at your computer screen
or hunched over your
typewriter
searching for words,
don’t do it.
if you’re doing it for money or
fame,
don’t do it.
if you’re doing it because you want
women in your bed,
don’t do it.
if you have to sit there and
rewrite it again and again,
don’t do it.
if it’s hard work just thinking about doing it,
don’t do it.
if you’re trying to write like somebody
else,
forget about it.
if you have to wait for it to roar out of
you,
then wait patiently.
if it never does roar out of you,
do something else.
if you first have to read it to your wife
or your girlfriend or your boyfriend
or your parents or to anybody at all,
you’re not ready.
don’t be like so many writers,
don’t be like so many thousands of
people who call themselves writers,
don’t be dull and boring and
pretentious, don’t be consumed with self-
love.
the libraries of the world have
yawned themselves to
sleep
over your kind.
don’t add to that.
don’t do it.
unless it comes out of
your soul like a rocket,
unless being still would
drive you to madness or
suicide or murder,
don’t do it.
unless the sun inside you is
burning your gut,
don’t do it.
when it is truly time,
and if you have been chosen,
it will do it by
itself and it will keep on doing it
until you die or it dies in you.
there is no other way.
and there never was.
PS I didn’t notice your mention of Mr. Men
before, but yes, you’re right, I can see it.
Mr. Rude, maybe… signed Little Miss Whoops.
xxx
andrea_from_chile! :
Date: August 15, 2008 @ 6:20 am
Mika this is all your fault!!!!
few hours ago i was going into every thread at MFC, whilst anxiously waiting for your next blog. I spent all my time on YOU SIR, instead of getting my stuffs ready for this long weekend on the beach (today is holiday in my country).
So the clock catched me up and i had no more than 10 mins to grab my things and get my butt in the car.
And now that i’ve arrived, guess what!!!! I left almost everything back at home!!!!!!!!! UN-BE-LIE-VA-BLE. I even forgot my rollerblades, which is the only reason why i came…. to rollerblade!!!!
this means mika i must stop this ridiculous obsession about trying to be the first one to comment your blogs (seems everybody wants lmao!!!)
ok, i had my say
now im going to sleep. nighty night!
ps: still havent read your Bukowski’s blog …. still too deep for me now (1am).
Kath :
Date: August 15, 2008 @ 6:24 am
It is very early and these poems are very profound, therefore I am having trouble getting my head around them, but I think the first one is extremely thought provocking, I am sure it will be with me all day……..it will keep poping back into my head when I should be thinking of other things. I think that by definition, that is a good poem.
xxxx
Jojo :
Date: August 15, 2008 @ 6:28 am
painful and refreshing at the same time
Je ressens exactement la même chose en écoutant la musique et les paroles des auteurs compositeurs que j’aime et qui me touchent, que ce soit Souchon ou Mika!
C’est ce mélange de finesse,de couleur vive, de tendresse,de douleur, de joie qui font la différence chez un artiste. L’humour et l’auto-dérision aussi.
Tout ça, je le trouve dans ton/votre univers
la musique, les paroles et l’image
J’ai acheté ton album en mai 2007 et l’écoute chaque jour avec gd plaisir. Une personne a tout de suite compris que tu sortais du moule: Nagui à Taratata.
Je crois que bien des gens se fourvoient en te prenant pour un petit crétin disco.
Le poème ci-dessus, c’est la vie, c’est un artiste qui parle avec les mots de tous les jours et qui nous touche.
Ta musique, c’est pareil avec en plus de la JOIE malgré de la peine sous-jacente.
You are AN ARTIST . AN EXCELLENT MUSICIAN
AND my favourite young singer songwriter!
A bit crazy and clever
Your pop music is PAINFUL and very REFRESHING
Thank you for sending such messages
Je ne connaissais pas cet artiste et il correspond à ce que j’aime: des choses profondes passées avec un vocabulaire et des images simples
Tu réussis la même chose et c’est un grand bonheur!
Olik :
Date: August 15, 2008 @ 6:33 am
Different people in different ages can take it in by different way. I mean,an old man can feel it like fall of his life. Now he looks at all with sad humour of his lived life because the world has failed them…Oh, it’s a little bit difficult to explain for me in english
I thing so.
Yeah, for me: I see dead leaves and plants like rebirth to a new life..and en plus I love autumn so mutch!!
The Bukowskis stile of lyrics has reminded me the greate russian poet soviet period Iosif Brodsky. I don’t stop to read it,that’s something!His lyrics teach me, I always find something new there.
OK.
Thank you Mika!!
Dr Seuss :
Date: August 15, 2008 @ 6:40 am
Mica
Oh, the places you’ll go!
I prefer poems that put a smile on my face.
Seussy
Roya :
Date: August 15, 2008 @ 6:52 am
Is it a poet needs sensitive and have good power of observation? so he/she can feel the thing around people which others hardly find.
PS: I really like his drawing!
Mika, will you come to China and hold a concert? I am waiting your show in China!
Thank you!
—-Roya
Guada :
Date: August 15, 2008 @ 6:57 am
Mika,,, me apresuro a firmarte
porq no hay muchas firmas todavía y tengo la esperanza de que esta la leas,,
no entendi mucho de lo que escribiste,, en realidad,,no entendi casi nada,, pero voy a leer a Bukowski, porque creo que tienes muy buen gusto y todas las cosas que vi de vos me gustaron como la musica que recomendste en pre-show music part 1,y cuando recomendaste a do-ho suh y a rachel whiteread…
tienes un gusto exelente.
me encantas mika,,
me encanta todo de vos.
mucha suerta
exitos
besos,,
lot of love
VEN A AGERTINAAAAAAAAA
VEN A ARGENTINAAAAAAAA
VEN A ARGENTINAAAAAAAA
PLEASEEEEEEEEE
VEN A ARGENTINAAAAAAAA
riverstwilight :
Date: August 15, 2008 @ 7:07 am
DELICIOUS!
I can’t believe I studied poetry in university and never heard of this guy! Thank you for posting about him! I will be looking up more of his stuff.
Nina :
Date: August 15, 2008 @ 7:07 am
I can see your point. A little bit depressing, but there is some humor in the end. And it is so easy to see these images. Yes, a little moment can tell a huge story.
I am not familiar with his production, but I will read it, of course. Because your music means so much to me, and I want to learn what gives you inspiration. Embarrassing, I know, lol. You are so sweet sharing all these things, thank you. Take care, and have a nice weekend!
Bev :
Date: August 15, 2008 @ 7:14 am
shew, quite dark, bitter, depicting the reality of life as it is (or can be)..mundane,tough..
plants need water to grow and flourish ,humans need ‘life’, ’spirit’..without these things both whither and die…
all the words he uses just depict this death..’dry’,'bled’ corpse,yellow,cracked,empty(even the landladys paper is yellow and cracked!
HOWEVER…’the sun was still good!!’
there’s hope!! Always!!With love and lots of water/spirit! life is good!!
My humble opinion…
xxxx
Nina :
Date: August 15, 2008 @ 7:17 am
And, can see your point in the second poem too. Love your sense of humor.
Davina :
Date: August 15, 2008 @ 7:17 am
That’s life…See how many of us fail…
Sad but true.
Davina xxx
lindemfc :
Date: August 15, 2008 @ 7:19 am
That’s hard to read, my english isn’t Great…but I’ll try it again in a few hours…I’m still to tired to think.
Have a great day :]
xX
Karen :
Date: August 15, 2008 @ 7:42 am
Bonjour Mika
J’ai lu le poème et l’ai relu plusieurs fois afin de mieux comprendre le sens et aussi l’anglais (je ne suis pas totalement bilingue!). Toutefois, je n’arrive pas à me décider s’il s’agit d’un poème sur la fin de vie ou sur un passage à vide. Est-ce un monsieur qui sait que la mort est proche, que tout autour de lui symbolise la mort et doit maintenant passer à trépas? Ou est-ce plutôt quelqu’un pour qui tout autour de lui symbolise sa dépression malgré qu’il puisse apercevoir quelques belles choses de la vie?
J’espère que mon anglais m’aura permis de bien comprendre le poème.
Bonne journée
Bev :
Date: August 15, 2008 @ 7:42 am
soo you see Mr Mika… in order to escape from this desolate (hehe) reality, us oddballs, join strange and interesting fan clubs, leave strange and whacky comments, and post somewhat ‘dodgy’ ‘forever love’ letters…eish shame! whatever gets one through the day!!
xxxxxx
Curls :
Date: August 15, 2008 @ 7:50 am
I see what you mean..
It felt to me like i was reading “the Watchmen” … a bleak narration of reality…i relate too coz for a while Ive been at that time in my life when i exhaust myself pondering the absurdity of it all..i think artists are more sensitive to this sort of thing, more aware of it,in the least less willing to just ignore or be convinced with the usual ‘escape valiums’…I was waiting for that humour at the end but it never came..”..screaming for rent because the world has failed us both”…THUD
…”the man who had once been young and
said to have genius; but
that’s the tragedy of the leaves” that hit home…thats the human predicament isnt it? I’ve always felt depressed when i’ve seen an old man (especially in a dire state)…coz there is a clear cut display of the “fall of the ‘Mighty’” … the illusion of grandeur and power that humans feel in their youth.. something else that i noticed was the image of the bottles: “the empty bottles like bled corpses” … never seen them being described like that..says alot about his frame of mind…I know how hard it is to pull yourself out of the “awakening” when it hits you, i dunno wot exactly it is that keeps one going…i think its faith…coz without feeling like you’re linked to anything greater than you…that’s hell in itself..and thats a vortex you seriously can’t get out of…i think alot of artists get this way and thats why unfortunately we invariably lose them too soon…
ps: that doodle definitely looks likes an old school Mr. Men…this one being far less happy…and comes with a drinking/smoking problem :S
virginie :
Date: August 15, 2008 @ 7:58 am
Hello Mika !!
Thanks for all your message.
J’ai une question qui n’a rien à voir avec ton nouveau message.
Récemment, j’ai entendu Ring Ring sur une radion française. Est-ce un titre qui va ou qui est sorti en France?? Tu la chante dans tous tes concerts mais je ne l’avais pas encore entendu à la radio !!
Alors???
Love ++
Virginie
Marine :
Date: August 15, 2008 @ 8:01 am
The first poem “the tragedy of the leaves” … I don’t like ( Sorry for my bad English). But the second, it is more interesting in my opinion! I think it concerns you a little too … with all the mail you have received is like CHARLES BUKOWSKI with phone calls he receives!
Now we talk about literature, I prefer something more modern, as writer Marc Levy or Guillaume Musso!
schraapsel :
Date: August 15, 2008 @ 8:03 am
Wow, like it!
Thanks for sharing!
Love, Maaike xxx
Melie :
Date: August 15, 2008 @ 8:10 am
Malheureusement, mon manque de connaissance en anglais ne me permet pas de comprendre ce poème dans sa totalité, juste quelques passages et quelques idées en général (shame on me…) dont je me fais le “dessin” dans la tête…
Mais j’aimerais pouvoir mieux le comprendre, car tu sembles dire que c’est un poème accessible à tous, plus abordable, ce qui est relativement rare dans le domaine de la poésie…
*sort son dictionnaire d’anglais* : Au travail ! car comme le dit le célèbre dicton :
“Quand tu ne comprends pas un poème en anglais, sors ton dictonnaire et va le travailler !”
Andrea :
Date: August 15, 2008 @ 8:32 am
Too busy here to take in the poetry….will re-read later when sons arenot creating ships out of the sofa!
Like the Mr Men reference though…LOL much more my typical day right now…..
Mika which Mr Man are you most like ?????
oxoxo Little Miss Busy Today
Sandra :
Date: August 15, 2008 @ 8:32 am
My english isn’t very well, but I think the poem is a little bit dark and heavy (I don’t know the right word in English) but sorry I don’t like it. I love the sweet and happy things in life. Your music makes me happy, also it is not always written when you were happy. I really love it and when I am feeling blue I listen to your CD and there is no sadness anymore. So keep on going to good work!! I am know 28 years old and since I saw your gig in Amsterdam I’m really a great fan. My boyfriend thinks I’m crazy!!
Once more, I LOVE YOUR MUSIC!!!!
XXXXX
Winny :
Date: August 15, 2008 @ 8:41 am
Hi Mika,
I see it like this: This writing is so depressing that ít chears me up, finding myself very positive!! But than we couldn’t find the positive things without comparing it with te negative could we?
Kajsa :
Date: August 15, 2008 @ 8:45 am
Oh, I like that second one!
Thanks for showing it!
// Kajsa X
rosedewitt :
Date: August 15, 2008 @ 8:46 am
hi mika, the poem you shared makes me think this:
bukowski really wrote to not become completely mad. in his poem he seems to write about his life and himself in his own words, he doesn’t even try to make it sound beautiful but subjective and honest. you can love that, or you can hate it. he says something and let his reader’s think about it.
if he was a musician, maybe he would be a sociocritical hip-hopper?
he isn’t afraid to deal with subjects other people usually avoid, like death. too much of his poems would probably get me down, he watches the world and his life from a brutally honest and non optimistic view.
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well here i am again. i read a little of his biography, he was born in 1920, “world war time”-child, was abused by his father etc, hardly no stable relationships, died after all from leukemia. it’s not a life you’d say he had lots of happiness and calm.
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especially this poem shocks and also touches me. he often uses words like “dead”, “pain”, “screaming”, “tragedy”, well words that wouldn’t appear in an optimistic happy poem
it’s somehow desperate because it shows a life of a man he can’t escape from but is forced to face it instead, who has no choice but living it.
Rima :
Date: August 15, 2008 @ 8:56 am
Awww, Jane and John.
Sophie Degunst (Jamakkronic) :
Date: August 15, 2008 @ 8:56 am
lol quitte un peu ce blog, ça me fait bugger la page quand tu travailles dessus
(si si je te vois !! heuuuuu oui …ah ben oui, ça veut dire que moi aussi… ça bug pour toi aussi si on laisse des messages et tu les valides en même temps?)
Je suis plus habitué aux sonnets de Shakespeare et donc je ne trouve pas ça si pessimiste que ça.
Mais oui, je sens ce que tu veux dire. La simplicité des termes et des images donne d’autant plus de force à ce qui est dit: pas moyen de se cacher derrière une hypothétique incompréhension due à la subtilité du langage poétique traditionnel.
C’est vrai que dans la structure des idées on retrouve celle des chansons.
L’idée est exposée, et sa problématique, il y a un fil, mais ici aucune solution pour un “happy ending” n’est proposée. Bukovski nous met le nez dedans et à nous d’assumer cette réalité.
Ça secoue les neurones, ça fait du bien… mais en même temps tu as raison c’est bien noir. Je préfère positiver, c’est le seul moyen de faire venir les bonnes choses.
Tiens un petit poème en prose totalement positif celui-là: je te l’offre.
“Il était une fois, un crapaud à plumes bleues qui rêvait. De doux sons caressaient son esprit de mille effleurements. Des tintements de clochettes illuminaient l’atmosphère de scintillements multicolores et frais, tandis qu’une voix chaude et grave berçait son coeur comme une tendre brise d’été. Le parfum des arbres à papillons flottait alentour. Son âme errait dans les nuages qui dessinaient de divertissantes formes dans le ciel. Un ourson blanc se transforma en carrosse. Un colibri vint chatouiller ses cheveux dans un bourdonnement chaleureux, lui insufflant un sourire émerveillé. De délicats papillons lui offrirent le plus fascinant des ballets, dansant dans les fleurs comme autant de fées minuscules, chahutant les effluves suaves qui vinrent chatouiller un peu plus le nez affûté du crapaud. Subrepticement, la lune se faufila dans le ciel clair. Le soleil, reconnaissant, commença à descendre vers l’horizon tandis que le ciel se teintait de rose. La lune tira sa chaude couverture violette et vint border les étoiles, qui, telles des lucioles, s’étendirent à perte de vue. Émerveillé, le crapaud à plumes bleues s’allongea sous les fleurs et ses petits yeux globuleux se fermèrent doucement, bercés par le chant les cigales. Une douce torpeur l’envahit calmement à l’approche de rêves enchanteurs et plein de promesses…”
Sarah Habli :
Date: August 15, 2008 @ 8:57 am
I like this poet he uses simple word yet alot of meaning and I think he is writing from a pain. I like that!
we I am angery what I do is write in thick red pen!!..It helps!!
I am pretty much inspired by all the books I have NEVER read soo I wonder how it would be like if I do!!!??
Gladys :
Date: August 15, 2008 @ 9:03 am
Bonjour Mika,
Je ne connaissais pas du tout ce poète… mon anglais était très limité et la traduction automatique n’étant pas terrible, je ne comprends pas toute la subtilité de ce poème.
Par contre, il est certain que s’il n’y avait plus de fleurs, d’arbres, bref tout ce qui fait notre belle nature…. la terre serait “morte”. Donc prenons soin de ce qui nous entoure ;o)
Voici un poème qu’on m’a fait lire il y a de ça quelques temps….
Liberté
Sur mes cahiers d’écolier
Sur mon pupitre et les arbres
Sur le sable sur la neige
J’écris ton nom
Sur toutes les pages lues
Sur toutes les pages blanches
Pierre sang papier ou cendre
J’écris ton nom
Sur les images dorées
Sur les armes des guerriers
Sur la couronne des rois
J’écris ton nom
Sur la jungle et le désert
Sur les nids sur les genêts
Sur l’écho de mon enfance
J’écris ton nom
Sur les merveilles des nuits
Sur le pain blanc des journées
Sur les saisons fiancées
J’écris ton nom
Sur tous mes chiffons d’azur
Sur l’étang soleil moisi
Sur le lac lune vivante
J’écris ton nom
Sur les champs sur l’horizon
Sur les ailes des oiseaux
Et sur le moulin des ombres
J’écris ton nom
Sur chaque bouffée d’aurore
Sur la mer sur les bateaux
Sur la montagne démente
J’écris ton nom
Sur la mousse des nuages
Sur les sueurs de l’orage
Sur la pluie épaisse et fade
J’écris ton nom
Sur les formes scintillantes
Sur les cloches des couleurs
Sur la vérité physique
J’écris ton nom
Sur les sentiers éveillés
Sur les routes déployées
Sur les places qui débordent
J’écris ton nom
Sur la lampe qui s’allume
Sur la lampe qui s’éteint
Sur mes maisons réunis
J’écris ton nom
Sur le fruit coupé en deux
Dur miroir et de ma chambre
Sur mon lit coquille vide
J’écris ton nom
Sur mon chien gourmand et tendre
Sur ces oreilles dressées
Sur sa patte maladroite
J’écris ton nom
Sur le tremplin de ma porte
Sur les objets familiers
Sur le flot du feu béni
J’écris ton nom
Sur toute chair accordée
Sur le front de mes amis
Sur chaque main qui se tend
J’écris ton nom
Sur la vitre des surprises
Sur les lèvres attentives
Bien au-dessus du silence
J’écris ton nom
Sur mes refuges détruits
Sur mes phares écroulés
Sur les murs de mon ennui
J’écris ton nom
Sur l’absence sans désir
Sur la solitude nue
Sur les marches de la mort
J’écris ton nom
Sur la santé revenue
Sur le risque disparu
Sur l’espoir sans souvenir
J’écris ton nom
Et par le pouvoir d’un mot
Je recommence ma vie
Je suis né pour te connaître
Pour te nommer
Liberté
(1942) - Le poème “Liberté” de Paul Eluard
Si tu veux en savoir plus… http://www.pierdelune.com/eluard.htm
Charlotte :
Date: August 15, 2008 @ 9:06 am
you like him too? thats awesome!!
happy birthday, BTW!!
xx
Rima :
Date: August 15, 2008 @ 9:13 am
Wordsworth (pre-1814), but just